In this wide-ranging conversation, artist Zach Blas and curator/writer Ana Teixeira Pinto will discuss surveillance, gamification, and the enduring Californian Ideology in relation to Blas’s expansive art practice.

Blas’s artwork Facial Weaponization Suite, a set of anti-biometric masks featured in the current exhibition Bideo-jokoak: Play Without End, will be considered as an expression of informatic opacity, while his ongoing Silicon Traces trilogy—a series of moving image installations that contends with the beliefs, fantasies, and histories influential to Silicon Valley’s visions of the future—will be approached as a contra-internet aesthetics.